Z Fold 3 adds S-Pen support, 120Hz cover display and a hidden under-display selfie camera ๐
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Hey what's up, i'm kbht here and i think it's safe to say we're about to be right back in the thick of it. Smartphone season is about to be upon us and what better way to kick that off than with a folding phone. Well, it's a pair of folding phones. Actually, we have this new samsung galaxy z, fold.
3, that i have a lot of thoughts about that. I was really curious about after such a big improvement from the last fold, but also there's a new z flip announced alongside it that i also got to play with and honestly, if i'm only able to recommend one of these to a regular person. It's probably the flip and it's much more pocketable design and really nice refinement with the outside cover screen, so check out that video it's going to drop at the same time as this one i'll link it below the like button. But this is the one i'm more into so this is the one i'm more likely to use it's the z-fold three and holding it for the first time.
It does look and feel very similar to the fold too. We've seen this look before, but there's some pretty noteworthy improvements here with a bunch of small changes, that kind of add up to being worth a new generation. So you've probably already seen the new camera bump it's smaller than that huge square from last time and we'll get to those cameras in a second but everything. Everything is just a little tighter and a little more well put together here.
New gorilla glass victus on the front, the whole phone is about two millimeters thinner and it's slightly lighter than last year as well, and the hinge, the most important part is even more tucked into the side of the phone. It doesn't stick out as much so the whole phone, along with the weight of the hinge, has this feeling of being very firmly well put together, and it's just very satisfying feeling it's so well put together. In fact that it's actually, i was surprised to learn. It has an ipx8 water resistance rating, which is pretty intense.
That means it can survive water from all directions and can actually be immersed in water, which i already know means someone's gon na do an underwater test with it and i'll probably watch. But that's a pretty big step for a folding phone. Isn't it now? Importantly, that's ipx8 not ip68, so the x means it wasn't tested for like fine, granular particles, solid particles, so it's not dust resistant and that actually makes a lot of sense. That's been the nemesis of these hinges, just little tiny grains, little particles getting into the hinge and eventually ending up under the screen, but the fact that it's so watertight that they can actually certify it for water resistance is pretty impressive to me.
I'm pretty sure. That's the first folding phone that we've seen the first new folding screen type phone, that's water resistant, then another great touch is the cover screen. That's on the outside, which is almost exactly the same. Size and resolution is now 120 hertz also to match the inside screen.
That i love last year on the fold 2. I never really got over the fact that the 60 hertz outside screen felt worse than the 120 hertz inside screen. It made me want to use it less, but now it just kind of feels like a really tall. Candy bar shaped normal phone with high refresh rate and everything, but let's talk about that big inside screen. Shall we because this is where we have the most changes same size, same bezels and 120 hertz refresh rate same dust caps at the top and the bottom. But you notice anything missing from the inside screen see. Last year there was a hole, punch camera at the top in the middle of the right hand, side and if you're looking up there yeah this year, that selfie camera has moved to behind the display. Oh yeah.
So fold three has an under display selfie camera inside of a folding display, so i've made an entire video just all about this camera behind the display tech boom i'll also link it below the like button. If you want to watch that video, but if you do check it out, it is a really curious new technology. It's a first generation thing and it definitely has some quirks and some weird things about it, which is why i was kind of surprised actually to see it in. You know such a premium high-end, expensive, samsung device, but it's here like it's, definitely not invisible by any means.
You can clearly see it whenever you look for it and it exhibits this pixelation through the gaps in the pixels that i talked about in that full video. It's got like this octagon shape of pixels and everything that passes through that octagon gets really pixelated, especially when it's bright, colors and whites, and especially when it's off axis and most interesting of all the actual quality of these other first generation selfie cameras i looked at, Are not great, it would look really hazy in the viewfinder and then once you snap, the photo. It literally runs a defogging algorithm to sharpen up and clean up the picture, and i could actually see that same thing happening here when i took selfies on the fold. 3, it's a little hazy in the viewfinder, but then you snap the picture and then you look at the picture fast enough.
You can literally see that processing snap, the contrast in get rid of that haze, but it's still not that great of a picture. So this it's interesting that it is, i mean, i'm excited, to get my hands on this phone longer term for the full review, but also to see what kind of photo quality and video quality that this actually produces to see how much worse it actually is than The hole punch camera that came before it but yeah. I think, if you ask samsung why they did this. I think their logic would be that this is the least important or least used selfie camera on the fold, like you already have on the new fold.
You'll, have a selfie hole, punch camera on the cover display and then, if you really want a high quality selfie well, you can open it up and point those cameras at yourself and use the viewfinder as a nice selfie shot. So this inside selfie camera. It's not really used all that much maybe for video calls sometimes they're, just a very quick convenient thing, so they figured. This was samsung's place to take a little bit of a risk with some bleeding edge tech to give us the full corner to corner expansive inside screen. We've wanted since the beginning sure you can still see the camera sometimes, and it's not perfect, but hey. It is better technically than a hole punch, but my favorite inside screen improvement here is that the foldable glass protective film is 80 percent, more durable against scratch resistance, meaning they've finally made the fold s pen compatible. Now this is all great and we love the headlines. Obviously, this is very exciting for people who wanted the bigger canvas for the note taking and all that, but this definitely comes with an asterisk that i think we should consider okay not to pour water on this fire or whatever, but think about it.
Yes, the fold is going to be clearly great for note-taking sketching. Maybe it's just straight up just as good as the note at everything it did. It's got all the same. S-Pen features and it's a super responsive, 120 hertz panel.
All that is great, but this is like a special case of an s pen for this phone. Okay, first of all, you need literally a special s pen, it's a new one, called the s pen, fold edition and it looks like a normal s pen, but it has a softer retractable tip. So you can't apply too much pressure that could still damage the screen and it's, of course, still an optional accessory. So you also need to buy an optional case to carry it around with the fold unless you want to have them both loose in your pocket and other styluses generally aren't going to work.
I mean there are some big soft tip styluses if you just want to replace your finger as an input device, but most pens for writing and sketching, and all that good stuff are not soft tipped they're not retractable tipped. So i even got a warning on the screen that says only use s, pens designed for your galaxy fold, all their s, pens or other styluses for that matter may damage the screen, which brings me to the only other option for this phone, which is a brand New much bigger s, pen pro that has to be set to z, fold mode, which is literally a physical switch on top of the pen that makes the tip retract more easily and with less pressure. But that's it now, the s-pen pro it actually is pretty cool and, unlike the fold edition, it is active, it's got a battery, it charges via usb type-c, but it also has on-board memory. So you can copy and paste stuff between different samsung devices like if you have a samsung tablet or a laptop.
That sounds super cool, but this is all specialized workarounds to loop in the galaxy fold into the s pen world. So, at the end of the day, if you've got to go the extra mile to buy the s pen and buy the case to carry it around in well, then you can do all that and you can bring the s pen into your life. But i guess what i'm trying to say is. I think samsung should keep around the galaxy note. Uh fold has a new set of triple cameras, like i mentioned, an ultra wide, a standard and a 2x telephoto and a flash right in line with the tamed down stuff. We usually see here in the fold - and i think they'll probably hold up in the full review, but we'll see and there's a bunch of pretty sweet new software features that make this phone even more of a multitasking monster. I already always felt like super productive anytime. I use the fold and now there's a new lab section in the settings where you can like force every app to work in multitasking for custom aspect ratios and my favorite tweak those slide over apps from the side you can now permanently pin over to the right Hand side of the phone like a dock like just straight up like a dock like a desktop operating system, and so then your shortcuts just live over there all the time kind of like the dock in mac, os 10 or in windows.
It can shuffle around your most recent apps, it's really useful for copying and pasting between apps or moving back and forth between things hopping, your app drawer anytime, from over there unpin it anytime. You want to very nice, very nice. Oh i just realized. I haven't told you guys the specs yet um triple eight and 12 gigs of ram in every module starts at 256.
Gigs there's also a half terabyte version and 4 400 milliamp hour battery, which is technically a little smaller than last year's 4500. But the phone is just a little bit more compact, a little thinner and then three colors there's the silver you just saw most of my hands on time with, but there's also a black and a phantom green, and that is a nice green. I'm kind of into that more than i expect it to be, but yeah would you. This is my question to you just from the first impressions now that you've seen it it's official.
Would you pick up this phone for 1 800 cause that's how much it's gon na cost it's a little less than before, but that's the starting price for the 256 gig z-fold 3. and, like i said, i still think among these two new folding phones, they've announced The flip, which starts at 9.99, still expensive, but that's like more of a reasonable phone to recommend to more people. I think so, if you want to check over on that video for my thoughts on it definitely do that. But i'm curious, if you guys, would be into 1800 bucks for the newest highest and most premium well-built folding phone.
I've ever seen super interested either way thanks for watching subscribe. If you haven't already and i'll catch, you guys the next one peace.
AWESOME video! Thanks so much! ๐I cannot believe that they didn't add another color though, like maybe even gold! And the price… not so sure… and not having a place for the pen? It IS impressive though! Again, absolutely PERFECT ๐ VIDEOโผ๏ธ๐
i was into it until i saw the whole ~disappearing camera~ thing. not super well executed. love experimentation buttt not for nearly $2000
Had this fone for only 4 days and returned it.. itโs garbage! Flip fones r history n not a good investment!! I donโt see anyone lining up around the corner to get this fone like iPhones!! And who the hell still uses pens???
Great Video and always check out your review before i buy stuff. I love fold 3 so much after i bought it like 1 day ago. but i run into a strange problem, while watching netflix, i open up youtube searching something, but as soon as i play a youtube video, netflix pause, when i play netflix and youtube pause. just out of curiosity, anyone know how can i play them at same time?
I know its happened and all but I still can't really believe we are Back at flip phones. Such fond memories of my little pink lfip phone I had through most of high school. What a time
Note 9 user here, bought the fold 3 it's amazing! Dont hesitate the future is here now! Very happy dont care about the camera battery doesn't last long but fast charging and a brick go a long way and at work u don't always use the main screen…
1800 is pricey i ordered mine. I think if you factor in the devices you could possible replace. A note and or tablet, or a s21 and a tablet, with 5g connectivity and condense it all into one device. I think its a nice productivity gadget. Does it have dex? If it does then you have a chromebook also.
problem with samsung is that they always want to be the first to release a tech, under display camera, first foldable phone, but keeps failing to deliver, always feels like unfinished tech
I have 2gen and what I've noticed with gen 3..The actual fold in the senter in the middle is more noticeable…But the gen3 feels better in the hand and looks slightly thinner to me.
Samsung's case for the phone does include an s-pen and that pen holster comes off the case too if you don't wish to use it. Not great. Not bad. Only cost 50 bucks for the case/pen. Not sure if that bundle was a thing on launch but it is now. I do love the phone though! Quirky "little" phone.
That hidden selfie camera is absolutely a turn off for me. I want to cover my selfie cameras on every device how would I do it on this!?
Thank you for a good detailed video ๐โค๏ธ from Ontario . I love samsung. They have things the world has never seen before. I love the note series. But at $1800 this is way to pricey.
i want them to make some kinda glass phone with images inside see through glass, phones are boring but at leastthese folding phones are somewhat fun to mess with
Yes I would buy it (already did) I have the Fold 2 and step up is not that bog a step from 2 to 3 as fold 1 to 2 was, but faster front screen. Several other incremental features and lastly Samsung buy back program convinced my to go for the Fold 3
I think Samsung is going into tbe wring direction with flip phones. Seems outdated i would prefer to see a phone that the screen can rotate to the back of the phone something like fliping the camera. But only the image on screen goes from fromt to the side and then to the back the phone where the back facing camera becomes a selfie and vice versa
Great phone and products but I've lost all confidence in Samsung support in our country. It's being run by *******… They can't even do simple IMEI and e-Vouchers.
Are you really put off by not having 120hz on the front screen on the Fold 2? Like honestly? For day to day use I'd take a 10fps outer screen if it meant better battery life.