60 watts? 120 watts? 240 watts? Here's what REALLY ruins batteries, explained.
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Okay, so it seems like every few months a new company, someone comes out with the new fastest ever charging smartphone like years ago. The flagship iphone was charging at five watts, and that was fairly standard. It would take about two and a half hours to charge. The phone from zero to a hundred, then, when the pixel one came out that was super fast charging at 18 watts.

Then soon the iphone bumped up to 20., then you might remember one plus beat out everybody for a couple years with 30 watts, but soon we had 45 65 80.. Now today, right now, this xiaomi 12 pro ships with this 120 watt charger. This you could, you can buy this right now today it charges the whole phone from zero to 100 in 17 minutes and then just a few weeks ago, oppo demoed this it's not on a real smartphone yet, but it would charge a theoretical 240 watts which would Go from zero to a hundred in nine minutes, that's pretty ridiculous and then, as you may have noticed, like i have pretty much any time. One of these demos gets posted somewhere universally.

The comments across the board are like. I don't want that on my phone that definitely is going to overheat. Good luck, plugging that in for more than five minutes before it explodes people across the board are universally convinced that there is no way that this can be good for your smartphone's battery, which got me thinking. If this is true, then why would these companies keep doing? This is fast charging actually ruining your battery, so i dove into it.

I just go straight in plenty of google searches, plenty of articles read plenty of people talk to and plenty of hot takes out there, but this is what i found. So batteries have improved in their chemistry over time, but right now all phones use lithium ion or lithium polymer batteries and the way they work is they have a positive side and a negative side and the lithium ions flow from the negative to the positive side. Through a liquid electrolyte solution and as they flow energy is released into the circuit, that's what's keeping the phone powered by the battery when that flow is over, though the battery has reached zero percent and is dead so charging the battery back up is moving those ions Back through from the positive to the negative side through that electrolyte solution, so the first thing to know about charging a battery is batteries are kind of like a sponge like they. They absorb the most energy when they have the least in them and then, as they get closer and closer to full, they can't absorb quite as efficiently and then there is some excess lost with a sponge.

It's just extra water passing through with a battery. That's just excess heat, and so what that looks like is charging actually happens on a curve. Those numbers that you keep seeing with the 100 watts and 150 watt fast charging. That's not the constant rate of charging, that's just the peak, the maximum that they're capable of, but that's typically only briefly the actual rate.
So a 65 watt fast charger, for example, will typically only hit 65 watts for the first few minutes, pretty early on in the charge from low battery and then taper off, and basically only trickle charge at a lower wattage after around 80. And you can actually view that if you get one of these incredibly nerdy cables with the display on it that lets you see exactly how much power your phone is accepting, while you're charging i'll link, one of them below the like button. But then the second thing to know is batteries do degrade over time. The iphone as you've probably seen, lets you literally visualize.

It shows you the percentage. So if you go to settings and battery and battery health, you can see your iphone's degradation rating as a number from 1 to 100. So this 13 pro i've been using is still good for 97 of the capacity it had when i got it five months ago. So why does it go down? Is the real question we're trying to answer and turns out? There are several things that degrade batteries.

I mean these are they're picky little things, they're very energy, dense little storage units they don't like being at 100, exactly they don't like. Being at zero percent - and they do naturally degrade over time as they go through charge cycles and the ions pass through that electrolyte solution over and over again slowly breaking it down. This is totally natural and can't really be avoided. As you charge the phone more and more, but the number one factor that damages batteries that degrades them faster than normal but ruins your battery is heat.

So the ions are moving through that electrolyte a lot, but you can think of the electrolyte basically like salts, so they can be pretty sensitive to changes in heat. They can actually crystallize and clog up the anodes and cathodes which stops them from being able to store the lithium ions and, like i mentioned earlier, when the battery isn't in the optimal state of charge, it's less efficient and that extra runoff energy manifests as heat. The heat is no good, so clearly, the goal here is to minimize any excess heat around that battery, which would damage it faster than normal. Now the thing is, generally, the more wattage the more power you're pumping into this battery, the more heat it's going to generate.

So it sounds like this extra fast charging is clearly bad for your phone, it's more heat generated and it's bad degradation, but that's not something these companies aren't thinking about. So over the years, a bunch of these different smartphone companies have basically been working on trying to figure out how to charge these phones as fast as possible, without generating any extra heat like if you look at just xiaomi's page for their fast charging alone. There's tons of charts and graphs and claims about what they're doing to get around this, so one new advancement came from one plus when they dropped that warp charge 30t charger. It was kind of interesting and a little confusing, maybe that we had warp charge 30 and warp charge 30t and both were 30 watts, but 30t was faster, but this is because, with 30t, the power management got handled in the brick instead of in the phone.
So there was more heat produced by the brick in the wall instead of on the phone near the battery, so oneplus could put the same amount of power into the phone, but for a longer period of time, without heating it up as much and so the charging Curve could be improved like this, so that's a nice step. The downside there is we're now we're getting larger power bricks, but that's a bit of a trade-off. People are willing to make. I guess, but then another way we've seen a bunch of companies jump on, especially lately is with something called parallel charging.

So basically, instead of putting a ton of power into a single battery, they actually split up the battery into two cells next to each other and then add power management hardware to split the incoming power. This is a simple but brilliant way to get faster charging times without a ton of heat. Imagine, instead of trying to pump 50 watts into a single 5000 milliamp hour battery just doing 25 watts into two batteries of half the size. That's going to generate way! Less heat, it's only 25 watts, but combined when you draw the curves, you can achieve the equivalent of 50 watt charging and you get to put 50 watts on the box.

But it's with way less heat. But again, there's a downside to this method too, which is a slightly smaller overall battery capacity, because if you take the same internal volume of two batteries instead of one, that means there's more space taken up by the boundary between the batteries and the housing and that Charging management hardware i mentioned so you'll often end up with slightly smaller overall batteries. If they're split like this and then of course something we've seen in just about every new phone coming out, which doesn't really have a downside, is just adding more cooling hardware onto the phone itself. Sometimes that's heat shields and vapor chambers.

Sometimes it's a whole fan, but specifically we're trying to get the parts inside from getting too hot. It feels like every smartphone announcement for the past two to three years has some sort of section about cooling, especially gaming phones, you're, of course, cooling. The system on a chip too, but the better the cooling system overall, the more power you can put into the phone without it getting too hot. So the real question is: is it working like? Is it? Is it that simple you can just as long as you keep the phone cool enough? You can put as much power into it as you want.

Well, there are the downsides i mentioned earlier with the larger brick, and maybe the phone's got to be thicker with more cooling and has a smaller capacity battery. But the question we're trying to ask is what counts as ruining your battery. That's a simple one and it turns out there's actually an industry standard for this so from the research i've done and the people at these companies. I've talked to that generally accepted target goal is 80 battery health after 800 charges.
So let's say you charge your phone. Roughly once a day, that'll pan out to about two years so 80 charge after two years, so this iphone now that i'm at 97, after about five months, is on track to be at roughly 85 after two years, which that's pretty good. That's above the industry standard. Officially, not being ruined now for all these super fast chargers that are new.

Well, it's tough because they're new, so they've just come out and we don't have long term data and it sucks that the only information i can use is just coming straight from those companies. So i'm basically taking their word for it that yeah the fast charging doesn't ruin the phone over time. But it's the best information we have, and it is actually surprisingly impressive. So, from their test, results xiaomi on their site say that their 120 watt charging tech is rated to maintain 80 battery health after 800 charge cycles apple on their site.

They don't have the fastest charging, but they say 80. After just 500 charges, but, like i said it seems like they're outperforming their own claims, hey under promise over deliver and then oppo and oneplus who've announced they'll. Have a 150 watt charging phone this year say that they've specifically stated it'll go 80 battery health after 1 600 cycles, so that will outperform the industry standard, which i guess means they have room to keep going up now, don't get me wrong! The trade-offs are very real, not everybody wants a thicker phone or a larger power, brick or a slightly smaller capacity battery, but from where i'm sitting and from the test results that we can go by. Basically, fast charging does not have to ruin your battery life and really the best part of that is just convenience.

On top of the fact that these companies are all actively still working on making this stuff better, you might have heard about gallium nitride chargers. There's a couple actually out there already in the market that allows the brick to actually be much smaller than the typical silicon charges we're all using now. So you can do a 65 watt, gallium nitride charger, half the size and still put the same power into the phone, but really what it comes down to these days is it's called a smartphone for a reason. Batteries these days are smart, like modern phones, all have tons of hardware and sensors inside the phone to help measure temperature and regulate charging.

So it's doing all kinds of stuff automatically and then the phones all will add a bunch of software features on top to help. You actively maintain the battery to the nth degree. Plus you know: phones like the rog phone 5 have pass-through charging, so when you're plugged in and gaming, which is typically not a good idea on a regular phone, it can just power the system and it doesn't add charge to the battery at all. So you're not putting extra stress and heat on the battery and it can maintain battery health for a lot longer.
The latest iphones and pixels too right now have a feature where, if you plug in at night around the same time, every night after a few days, it learns when you wake up. So, instead of charging right to 100, when you plug it in it, charges up to 80, then waits all the way until you're about to wake up, maybe an hour before your alarm and then charges the rest of the way up to 100. So you wake up with a full battery, but better health and pretty much any other phone with this super fast charging coming up is gon na have to have a suite of battery health options that you can mess with in the software to take your battery health Protection to the next level, so i don't know how fast these phones charging is gon na get in the next couple years. Inevitably, it's just gon na keep getting better as companies work on it, but what i can tell you is the best thing we can do for our phones is to just use them like normal and basically don't give them any extra reason to get hot.

You know leaving it in the dash of your car on a sunny day gaming, while plugged in for long periods of time stuff like that, if you can avoid your phone getting super hot you're doing the best thing you can for your battery and these smartphone companies. All know that battery problems are bad news, so if they're all doing their jobs, then we should all be good fun fact. The famous galaxy note 7 battery exploding issue as crazy as it was. It wasn't actually due to fast charging or overheating.

It was actually just them with their battery supplier, getting some dimensions wrong and some bending going on of the battery with the positive and negative sides up in the corners, something to think about either way. Now you have the answer thanks for watching catch, you guys in the next one peace.

By MKBHD

12 thoughts on “Does fast charging actually ruin your battery?”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gautam Peri says:

    How is my 12 Pro (over 1 year old) still at 100% health and Marques have a 5 month 13 Pro at 97%??

    How much of a power user is he with his reviews and as a daily driver?
    What could he be doing as a user or what is it that I'm not?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars im weasel says:

    I feel like it balances out really. If you are charging a phone at normal speeds for 2 hours and generating heat for that full 2 hours it's probably just as dangerous as generating more heat, but for less time on a fast 30 minute charge.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars QuantumBraced says:

    The other thing that ruins your battery is being at 100% or near 0%. You wanna keep it between 20-80 or between 30-70 even better when you can do it, that prolongs your battery's life considerably. And fast charging is kind of antithetical to that because you will accidentally charge your battery to 100% all the time. Phones need to have limiters where you can manually set the max charge %, like cars do. Most people plug their phone and go to bed and then the phone sits at 100% for 7 hours and that is really bad for the battery.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ahsan Jubaid says:

    I really think tech in 2023 should charge 0-100 in 15 minutes max. I mean in 2010 our phones needed roughly 90 minutes to fully charge and in 2022 it is still roughly 90 minutes to fully charge (normally) is crazy. Companies should really research on super fast charging tech instead of wireless tech. Tech should be there to fully charge phones in 15 minutes max preserving battery health. Companies should work on that. Phones should be fully charged up in like 10 minutes for a days use. If its 10 minutes, I really don't care if its wired.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Christian J says:

    This was a very informative video, thank you Marques.

    I know a bit more now about taking care of my phone battery, like only charging my phone to 80% might be better in the long run than charging it from 5 or 1% to a 100-percent every time.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cody Giron says:

    Great presentation on an important subject. I immediately went to the Battery settings on my iPhone 12 Pro Max which I bought on the day it was announced is at 88%. I don't know if the Apple MagSafe Duo Charger (I bought 3!) is the reason, but I know, without question, they are the fastest chargers I've used. The compact form factor is great for travel as well as for home or office use!

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ernest Jay says:

    Theoretically = YES, fast charging will ruin your battery.
    Practically = it depends on battery material, temperature, quality of charger, and many more, in the end….. fast charging basically the same as normal charging because battery life are depend on "cycles" not on "how fast it get charged"

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KrazyFuckinCrackers1 says:

    If you want to know the truth about if fast charging damages batteries. Look at what electric vehicle companies are doing unlike a cell phone a car is not a disposable item. A Tesla for instance after you exceed a certain amount of fast charging the car will permanently locked out its ability to fast charge. If charging a battery fast wasn’t bad for it they wouldn’t limit charging.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jiffer says:

    I'm very confused by Apples battery degradation percents. Im a very heavy power user of my iPhone based on screen time. yet over the years my battery is 100%-97% and other non power users reach this degradation in months of using the phones.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Toortog says:

    Having a fast charger is great from me. I forget to check my battery level often so my fast charger can get me enough charge in 10-15 minutes to hold me till I can do a full charge later. It is also great for charging my @##$%@#%^ Apple mouse quickly.

    APPLE you put notches on phones put a dam notch on the front of the mouse so if the battery dies I can plug a chord in and still use the mouse while it recharges.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ryan Schaffer says:

    Great analysis though I feel like we still didn't answer the real question here. Does fast charging negatively affect the battery versus low charging? In other words, if after 500 charges I'm at 80% capacity. What would happen if I cut the wattage in half. What I get a thousand charges and then be left with 80% capacity?

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mdcoolcomrat says:

    OnePlus started the thing back at OP 3/T/5/T with 20w Dash charging technology. They sold it as "a day's power in half an hour". Used OP5 for 4.5 years and charging was that particular thing I loved _a lot_! Phone was barely warm during 0-60% charging. Heck, I could even play intensive games with full 20W charging with almost no heat (and I did that quite often). I noticed some 15-20% battery degradation after 3 years of using 100-130% of capacity each day, but I purchased a battery kit from iFixit for just 30 bucks and I still use the phone.

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