In a world where you can get the exact same performance from a computer half the price... what's the point?
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So Apple's done it. They finally completed their Apple silicon transition. They said it would take two years. it took closer to three, but now every single Mac that was running Intel processors just a few short years ago is running Apple silicon from the top to the bottom of their lineup.

and the very last one to get it was this one right here, the new Apple silicon Mac Pro And it got it in a weird way. So let's talk about it. So there's a whole lineup of Max and the bottom of the lineup was the MacBook Air and the Mac Mini getting M1 and then M2. Just this the base smallest version of Apple silicon on a chip.

Already a massive improvement over the Intel machines. But then the further up you go, you get the MacBook Pros with M2 Pro. This is double the M2. Then the M2 Max is again double the M2 Pro and at the top of the lineup is the new King of the Hill most powerful chip they make in the new Max studio, which is called the M2 Ultra which again double levels up.

The M2 Max literally I mean it's two M2 Maxes fused together. This ship is absurdly impressive, which shouldn't be a surprise. I mean the M1 Ultra was already awesome and it's what I've been editing on for basically the past year it's been out, but M2 Ultra is actually meaningfully better at a lot of stuff than that one. It's a solid 15 to 20 faster on single core performance, which is already excellent, taking it to the highest Mark of any Mac ever.

And it also benchmarked 15 to 20 faster in multi-core CPU performance again making it the fastest Mac ever tested. It got better scores in everything across the board geekbench metal scores are up by 20 in the GPU department now that it has this new 76 core GPU which is the one I'm testing and there are even certain software optimizations that improve workflows even more than expected. So the New Media engine is a good one where it would typically Excel mainly at parallel workloads like that's why you'd always see them talking about 22 8K Prores videos at the same time or whatever it was, but it can now also Point all of its core is at a single workload for those of us doing back-to-back exports instead of parallel exports. So the export time for a sample project I built with five minute Prores video went down from a ridiculous one minute 45 seconds all the way down to a hilariously fast 57 seconds which is something like an 80 Improvement It's amazing.

M2 Ultra is truly excellent. So then the Mac Pro would be the last Mac to get the Apple silicon upgrade. and when it finally did look, a lot of us Hardware nerds were getting really excited about maybe something like a M2 extreme which would once again double the M2 Ultra chip by fusing two together and being just something Mammoth and absurd. But it didn't, it didn't, It's actually the exact same M2 Ultra chip in both the Mac Studio and the new Mac Pro.

So the natural question that this begs is: why would anyone buy the new Mac Pro Like, why would anyone in their right mind spend 3 000 more dollars on a machine that gives you the exact same performance from the exact same chip in a much bigger, heavier machine? Well, I'll tell you why, because I am one of them one of the few I'll warn you, but one of the few people that will actually take advantage of some unique things about this new Mac Pro. But the fact is, yeah, most people shouldn't and won't get the new Mac Pro because the Mac Studio exists. So what's the reason? Well, there are some smaller details that are potentially interesting about the new Mac Pro Like, for example: Okay, it's the same chip in each, but hang on a second. they're dramatically different sizes.
So maybe the Mac Pro in a much bigger chassis with three gigantic fans at the front, and way more space for airflow? Surely, there's a slight thermal advantage to getting the Mac Pro or maybe more sustained performance over a longer time before throttling. And technically yes, I found that to be slightly True by only like a single digit percentage in most cases, and often by a rounding error. But I did do the Cinebench 10 minute stress test back to back three times each on the Mac Pro and the Mac Studio. And while the Mac Studio dropped a tiny bit on the second run and the Mac Pro technically increased slightly with each run, suggesting it wasn't near its limit yet, it wasn't really that dramatic like I've seen some people get maybe closer to eight to ten percent out of their tests, but it's not enough to spend three thousand more dollars for more performance out of this machine.

put it that way. But another thing is there is more I O on the Mac Pro. Technically I mean it doesn't have the SD card slot on the front unfortunately, which is one of the most important ones. But it does have a new card at the top here with six Thunderbolt ports and two more at the front.

so totaling eight which is two more than the Mac Studio. and it also has has two HDMI 2.1 ports instead of one and two ethernet ports instead of one. So technically true, Yes, but also, you wouldn't spend three thousand dollars more on the Mac Pro just for that I Think people would get dongles for one extra Port. But no, the real difference.

The reason the Mac Pro exists is PCI slots like that's that's really it. Like the next time you see a comment or a tweet or something of someone going, why does the Mac Pro even exist when you can get the same computer in a Mac Studio is because this one has PCI slots. That's the real reason the Mac Pro has six open PCI expansion slots that the Mac Studio does not have five of them PCI Gen 4 the last one a compatibility slot. It's kind of funny how empty it looks when you get it like you open this computer up and the entire thing is just air.

The M2 Ultra is just under this cooler at the top. The CPU GPU shared memory, the media engine, neural engine, everything is just under there. and then there's just an expansive room for all these PCI slots. And these PCI slots aren't even for video cards or Gpus at all.
Actually, because as we know, the GPU which has 192 up to 192 gigs of shared memory is built into the Apple silicon chip. So really all we're getting the PCI slots for is expansion slots. The pure dedicated expansion slots that a lot of Pros in certain industries use a lot. Sound cards, I o cards, storage cards, networking cards.

That's it. So yeah, it is really specific and it will sound ridiculous to most people that it literally doesn't support video cards. like you could pull a crazy AMD Radeon card out of the Old Mac Pro right now and put it into this thing and basically nothing would happen. But also at the same time, most of the buyers of these Mac Pros are you know Production Studios Post Houses music studios, Things like that those people already had desktops with PCI slots and they literally could not make a Mac work unless they made one with PCI slots.

so that's who Mac Pro is for. It really is too bad though, that technically this Mac Pro will be less versatile than the old one because there are people who would want to throw powerful GPU cores at certain applications whether it's after effects or some 3D modeling stuff or Premiere even that just can't do that with this one. It also doesn't work with or apparently even need the old After Burner carts. So I don't know if you remember the afterburner cards and the old Mac Pro were basically these dedicated cars.

a two thousand dollar video accelerator card. Uh, but apparently the M2 Ultra has enough power that it's the equivalent of like seven afterburner cards. So that right there is the real power of Apple silicon if you're shooting prores. But the more I think about it.

just so much of this Pro machine stuff is specific to workflows and it's It's very difficult to build one computer with no expansion or upgrade ability or modularity at all that works with everyone's workflows. So there did need to exist a Mac that could accommodate some more interesting workflows. But like I don't shoot Prores I shoot R3d So I'm not going to need the exact machine that's built super well for Pro For me, it's actually storage. Uh, right here.

I'm holding Owc's 8m2 PCI SSD This is basically a PCI expansion card with a bunch of Nvme Ssds on it. So the max storage you can get built into the Mac Pro is eight terabytes and it's pretty fast. It's six seven thousand megabytes per second. read: Write cool.

Uh, but you can max out one of these cards at 64 terabytes and it will read right at 25 000 megabytes per second, which is absurd. Uh, so that's a totally different level. This is what I'm going to dump footage on. This is what I'm going to back up to.

This is going to replace my current external Thunderbolt backup, which is where I was keeping all my old footage. It was sitting next to the Mac Studio plugged in and I'll still have plenty of room left over to work on and edit multiple video projects off of it at the same time. It's going to be awesome for what I do and I only need one but also I Fully acknowledge and you should all realize that most people don't need those specialized Ssds. That's why it looks crazy that this Mac Pro exists just on the website next to all the rest of the Macs, but most people should get this one.
Mac Studio is kind of a revelation for Apple it's offering their top of the lineup performance for way less than the old top of the lineup. and that's why most people should end up getting that one. I Do have one last thing though. I have a theory.

If if I know anything about Apple, it's that you can sort of predict the future pretty well based on the past. and this Mac Pro is a pretty classic lazy refresh from Apple pretty similar to what they've already done. Like look at the MacBook Air when they first went from the last Intel MacBook Air to the first Apple silicon MacBook Air they reused the exact same design and just moved the new chip on the inside for all the performance gains. Then the second generation of it got the redesign same thing with the MacBook Pro right? They took the MacBook Pro with the touch bar and just reused the same design, new chip, and then the next Generation got a redesign.

So now this Mac Pro has just done the same first half of that transformation. It's the same exact chassis more or less as the Intel Mac Pro. but I can expect the Next Generation. Now I'm already thinking about the M3 and that's probably kind of unhealthy, but that's that's where my mind goes.

That's just my theory. So anyway, now you know why the macro exists. Now you know why: I'll have one on my desk and I'll also leave you with this. There was no other place to put it in the review, but I did realize that this Mac Pro does something kind of weird when you take the top halfway off when it's still plugged in.

The old one didn't do it. so I'm just going to leave you to it. Thanks for watching Catch you guys in the next one! Peace.

By MKBHD

16 thoughts on “Why does the m2 mac pro exist?”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars john king says:

    Great vid , good presentation, thanks !!!!

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Madd Rotomad says:

    Did the most recent MacOS update to fully fix the OWC 8M2 SSD?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KyEl says:

    Without GPU support and some
    Memory slots I can’t have an instance of blender rendering on the GPU while continuing working on another scene using the SOC at the same time. Apples vision of upgradability is to buy another Mac. They, yet again, gave a middle finger to the pro market. I just hope they fix this issue with the next gen. If there is one.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The guy that farms says:

    Fact of the day: Did you know that that Mac pc thing cost $9000 Canadian dollars like 🤯

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HeLL Be hemoth says:

    It's simple, you buy a Mac Pro and you can replace components, you can't do that with Mac mini.
    What do you not understand ?MPX Module?

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Avocato Bobble says:

    So a Pro machine for actual pros.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rescue Helly says:

    M3 comes out after like 5 months, these Mac Pro buyers…

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HARBAMON95 says:

    Sir please please give ipad pro as a donation i am from India

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Triforce 🐣 says:

    Do I need one of these to stream to an audience of less than 500 people, no. But god that doesn't stop me from wanting one to play with.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Frans van den Berge says:

    Professionals who need PCI-E slots for cards worth more than the puter and with registered memory meaning faults can be traced. And won't crash the machine.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Adonis Doxilly says:

    There going to bring the trashcan back lol 💀 I actually like the design of it tho

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars JoveroIV says:

    Here after the M3 announcement….😬

    This computer was matched by a MacBook Pro with M3 Max 4 months after release. Yikes

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sunny Prajapati says:

    You didnt talk about the gpu bench marks where it sucks most…!

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Carlos Medeiros says:

    All answers wrong. The reason is now I buy it refurb for cheap!

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ClassWIZ says:

    Very interesting, looking forward to new production.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mitch James says:

    Apple should develop M chip variant for the Mac Pro that uses expandable DDR5 ram and takes GPU’s from AMD, NVIDIA and Intel.

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